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Round 6
Mar 23, 2012 3:01:17 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 23, 2012 3:01:17 GMT -5
So I survived the last vote and Tammy was voted out. Im really glad to have made it and Ive come to a new revelation..... I actually enjoy going to Tribal Council. I would be perfectly happy going every single time. At the first vote everyone came to me and said "who do we vote?" and I said Sophie. Next time they asked I said Brenda or Gregg and everyone sat around with their thumbs up their asses waiting on me to tell them and finally said "Brenda" but told Brenda to vote Gregg. Then the next round got tricky. Gregg approached me and told me Brenda had told him I told her to vote Gregg out (so I had been caught) and I kinda felt like he didnt trust me after that and I would never build trust from him again. He said it didnt bother him but I had a feeling it actually did and I couldnt take that risk. So people came to me and said "lets vote Bobby Jon" I said, nope its Gregg. But I told Gregg to vote Semhar. Then at the last tribal council. I couldnt decide between Tammy and Misty leaving, so I kept flipping back and forth on my decision and Sandra, Amber and Shawna were flipping along with me since we werent sure. I actually made parchments for Misty and Tammy at least 3 times each, but Misty came to me and talked to me and honestly I can admit, I was taken in by Misty and I bought what she was trying to sell me. So I really hope that doesnt come back to bite me. So eventually I told my 3 girls to vote Tammy, then I told Misty I did her a favor and saved her (which I know she didnt believe but it was really just said as a formality) because honestly, nothing in Survivor is done as a favor. You can say "I saved you" all day long and its just bullshit. People play for themselves, but in the end they do what they have to do to win.....and when they fail they just get to say they 'kept their integrity intact'
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Round 6
Mar 23, 2012 3:11:49 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 23, 2012 3:11:49 GMT -5
So this round we are having to write an epic story about what we think will happen in the game. I wrote the story for my tribe (the challenge isnt over, but lets face it. Nobody else is gonna write a fuckin story) so people are offering suggestions on how to change it such as "posting pictures" and "put in Hidden Immunity Idols"....I literally have no idea about what they are talking about. I dont see anyone finding a picture of Bobby Jon being slaughtered by a Panda bear or Sydney being dragged into the sea by the Kraken. I think people were just sayin random shit to say they made some input on the challenge, because not one person has posted a picture. The other thing is adding in HII's, this story envolves everyone getting murdered, I really dont know where and immunity idol would fit into this story. Honestly I could make it work if I incorporated a comp every day to let someone win immunity or something, but the story is already really long and that would just make things really complicated. This is a story for an ORG, Im not trying to write a novel.
Speaking of writing a novel......I noticed that everyone is making suggestions but not actually putting things in (with the exception of Shawna changing the opening treemail poem) so I can only assume what they are actually saying is "Chase, these are things we'd like you to somehow put in the story." But in my mind, Im like "Do I look like my name is Ernest Hemingway? why dont you give me a break since I wrote 4 damn pages and somebody else add a couple sentences in this bitch"
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Round 6
Mar 23, 2012 4:08:31 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 23, 2012 4:08:31 GMT -5
I think myself, Brenda, Aras, and Jonathan sure can relate to Colton and his untimely departure...... Hi Chase! Lets discuss this a minute because I obviously saw it and feel I should at least issue a response.......I dont get this at all. And by that I mean I dont understand the context of the statement at all. Its clearly some type of slur against me but I dont know what exactly. I have a feeling he is somehow saying that Im like Colton on Survivor but I dont know how Aras and Jonathan play into that scenario at all since I wasnt even on their tribes. And Gregg and Brenda both voted each other out of the game so I guess I dont understand where they are coming from. Brenda may have been stronger in future challenges, but she hadnt been strong up to the 2nd tribal council and didnt even attempt the tiebreaker puzzle. Also Gregg did horrible on his puzzle so theres really no room to talk. Gregg was in a great spot and Semhar originally would have gone at that point, but he screwed himself over really. I said all this because this comment he made has actually changed my gameplay a little bit. When I play ORGs I try to be as honest as I possibly can and only make moves when Im backed up against a wall, but honestly I kind of enjoy the thought of the pre-jury being bitter towards me. That just confirms with me that Im doing something right. In Survivor, you have to make moves discreetly so you dont draw attention to yourself, but you cant be so discreet that nobody gives you the credit. Even with a group making moves together, there is always one that is viewed as the 'real' player (i.e. Brian/Clay, Tom/Katie, Earl/Cassandra, Yul/Becky, Aras/DDanielle, Todd/Amanda/Courtney, Parvati/Amanda, JT/Stephen) In retrospect all those people made the same moves nearly their entire seasons, but only one is given the credit. So by them being bitter towards me that makes me feel like Im the more dominant player of the group because you dont see people mad at Semhar or Mick and they voted the same way I did. Also my story I wrote for this challenge is laced with my opinions of other peoples games and there is definitely some subconscious underlying messages. Some were on purpose and some were things I didnt realize until I read it back. First of all Mick, I actually put the part about Mick dying late into the story and had to go back and edit it in because I forgot he was in the game and I really did see him as "feckless" at this point. He got given that title as a nod from Shambo but it actually is relevant to this situation. Chelsea/BJ/Chase love triangle is something I see in the near future. Chelsea and I have had a strong bond and I feel like Bobby Jon has a similar bond with her. I see it becoming a problem in the future because she does hold the cards in that case, but I wanted to make sure that Chelsea ultimately chose Bobby Jon over me just to not raise any suspicions in his mind if and when he reads the story. Id like him to feel like I wont fight him when the time comes. (btw all of this was done assuming that the other tribes would be able to read our stories after the results are posted) Tom, is sketchy as hell. I really dont trust him at all, I think he would stab somebody in the back in a heartbeat, even someone nice like Semhar to get ahead and he isnt to be trusted at all. Similar story with Steph V, I do view her and Savage as kind of a pair and I think she would screw over a close ally to get ahead. Matt is also the type that is very devious also and not to be trusted. I view he and Sandra as somewhat of a pair and i think she is gonna go far. Sandra is not the goat she pretends to be and I think she is actually playing the game well. But just FYI, Im not a psycho who put subliminal messages into a story to try and sway the game. I only did that with the Chase/BJ/Chelsea love triangle part. Im just pointing out that my own view points on the game really did work their way into my story because thats how I view those players in the game.
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Round 6
Mar 24, 2012 12:59:40 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 24, 2012 12:59:40 GMT -5
Ive been tlaking to BJ this morning and we were talking about our stories and they did the same Hunger Games them as us. Except they divided them out by scenes and everyone did part of it and he talked about several of the scenes that were funny and entertaining and I didnt really feel like ours was like that. I didnt know how long of a story to write and wish I had went into character development and stuff and posted more convos and stuff and really at this point I can only hope Chorizo did horrible. I think why theirs sounds better than ours is because they ahd a lot of participation and they worked together. I could have written really in depth scens, had I have only had to write 1/6 of the story, but that wasnt the case. It was me writing the whole thing and people making a couple comments like 'post a picture'......which is about as helpful as suggesting "why dont we write our story in English" or lets "type it with our hands instead of our feet" but Shawna did help and hopefully we dont lose. But its wahtever I guess
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Post by The One and Only BOB DAWG on Mar 24, 2012 13:01:29 GMT -5
You probably would of done better if you typed with your feet. That was a bad suggestion
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Round 6
Mar 24, 2012 13:40:42 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 24, 2012 13:40:42 GMT -5
Well hopefully were rewarded with a nice trip to tribal council then
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Round 6
Mar 24, 2012 21:34:49 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 24, 2012 21:34:49 GMT -5
AAAAAAAAAAAnd Dead Last once again. We didnt even get in the triple digits with our score. This is shitty
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Round 6
Mar 25, 2012 3:35:01 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 25, 2012 3:35:01 GMT -5
Ive decided to try a new strategy from this point forward. I will try to ensure that no matter what tribe I am on, that we go to tribal council every single round because that way i decide the vote and who goes out. Obviously the tribes will be reshuffled and I just start all over again and just continue this cycle until merge. Once merge starts, I just flip as much as possible and always make sure Im in the minority of alliances because the people in the minorities are the ones who get approached to flip sides and stuff.....I really feel like Dead Man Walking in this game and based on performance and track record, Ive more than survived what I would have expected. So now its just a kamikaze mission where I know Im going down eventually so I wanna do as much damage as possible while i have the chance.....I normally play Survivor very slowly and strategically but now its more like getting across a river of alligators, Im gonna do much better going off pure adrenaline then I am taking it step by step and overthinking
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Round 6
Mar 26, 2012 2:19:04 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 26, 2012 2:19:04 GMT -5
Well, this shit is B-A-N-A-N-A-S, this was a weird tribal council so lets just start at the beginning I guess.
Earlier this round, Shawna asked me what I thought about the future of the game and stuff and I really felt like after this round we would have 18 players and that next round was double tribal again and that would be 16 so we would divide into 2 tribes of 8 and that would be the final merge til the actual merge.
So then we started talking about the other players and how we thought maybe Matt, Sydney, Chelsea, Bobby Jon and Sandra had an alliance (something Ive thought since early in the game) and Shawna felt the same as I did. I may not know exactly what players are in that alliance, but I think thats pretty close and I know Sandra is some part of it. Everything with her just happened too easy last tribal council. She just willingly did anything and it was just odd. So we decided to vote Sandra.
Shawna wanted to try and pull Steph or Misty over to us to try and get them to vote Sandra with me, Amber and Shawna but I felt we should try a different approach. I wanted to relive one of the greatest moves ever in Survivor history that Cirie used on Courtney to get her out on Exile Island. There were 6 voters and she scrambled the votes all over the map. I had hoped to get Sandra to vote for Steph or Misty along with "us" and then have Steph and Misty vote out Amber, which was who they were pushing for. Then us 3 could have a majority on our own and we would actually vote out Sandra. She is a strong player that is currently seperated from her strong alliance and this was the perfect time to pick her off. We also worried she might have an idol. Ive heard the idols are found by people from opposing tribes so they arent useful if you arent on THAT tribe. So I kinda thought maybe someone gave her one, which I think is either Bobby Jon or Tom, as they are the 2 most likely to have found idols.
So Misty and Steph trashed each other to Shawna and I wasnt really buying it but I didnt think Sandra would want to force a tie so I just chalked it up to, Steph and Misty are trying to stay alive in the game. Which they didnt need to do because they werent the targets. But the one thing all 3 of them agreed on was that they didnt want to vote out Amber......Misty especially gave this big speech about Amber saving her last round and how she didnt wanna vote for someone that helped her so much and everything. So all of that was either a lie, which didnt matter cause Sandra was the vote or it was the truth which was cool too, so we could get our plan off better.
So a little while before I cast my vote, Steph told me she was voting off Misty, Sandra asked me who she should vote and I said "Steph".....about 5 seconds later I get a message from Steph saying "so I guess Im the vote huh?"....so obviously Sandra ran right back and told her and then Steph told me which was just dumb of them if they were trying to get their plan off without a hitch. So it confirmed my suspicion that Sandra was shady and was trying to play both sides, so I didnt know what to expect out of tribal council. So I hoped that Sandra would not play her idol and would leave the game with it still in pocket. That was my goal, but I got a curveball.
The votes are about to be read and I scroll down and see Sandra STAND THE FUCK UP AND PULL OUT THE IDOL, my mouth literally drops open and I just couldnt believe she actually figured out our plan. Cause me, Shawna and Amber were the only ones who knew, we didnt tell ANYBODY, just in case. Not even old tribemates like Mick, BJ and Semhar. So I scroll down more and see that she played it on Misty and I just started Rolling in the Deep laughing. Regardless of what happens in this game, that was the greatest moment so far and this was the greatest tribal council ever.
So The votes get read and obviously the 3 of them target Amber to leave. And their votes are just epic, its stuff like "Youre taking a trip to pre-jury....BOOM TOASTED!" and "You cant ride Robs coattails to the end this time" and stuff. The votes were so smug and cocky and that just made it all that much funnier that this didnt pan out like they wanted. It didnt pan out the way we wanted either, but the idol is gone regardless, it wasnt played on me and Im staying another round. I cant really ask for much more than that. As long as I dont go, then the round is successful, even if I lose an ally. So now the vote is tied between Amber and Sandra and we have to do a revote.
I get on AIM to see whats up and I have 17 new messages from Sandra. She is panicking and upset (probably that she used her idol on someone else) and I just tried to calm her down and say nice things. She starts working on me to get me to flip my vote and I go along and act very interested. Id like to let her believe I might flip so they only work on me and not on Shawna. I want to be the one they still attempt to come to for a vote when needed, that applies to now and in the future. My allies may be gone soon and I may need a new team to latch on to and I wanna make sure Im the person getting offers from the other groups about joining up.
Right now I have a strategy to attempt to work on for the next few rounds. Im keeping Amber this week of course and I fully expect a tie breaker challenge. Then I feel like next round is our last one before another tribal swap. So I need to ensure I get past that one as well. I am hoping that I can stay loyal to my current alliance, but explain to Misty, Steph and Sandra that Im being loyal because Im a loyal person and that when I commit to something, I dont waiver, but were my 2 allies (Shawna and Amber) gone from the game, then I could be a free agent because I wouldnt have any more alliegances to anyone in the game. So maybe they would still want to scoop me up as a "loyal" person and will vote out Shawna next tribal we lose instead of me. Which would put me at final 16 and the tribes would merge into 2 and then there is a whole new crop of people for me. It would be a whole new game and it'd be like I was starting over fresh. So plan A is Amber wins the tiebreaker, plan B is me laying the ground work to have Shawna voted out next time and having me stay.
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Round 6
Mar 26, 2012 19:00:38 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 26, 2012 19:00:38 GMT -5
So its still looking like its going to be a tie and Ive begun smiting Shawna, Just in case Amber loses this challenge I want her to feel like they are coming after her before me so she will kinda blow up. She already popped off a little last night and can have a temper, so Im laying some ground work. I hate to do it, cause Shawna is my friend but its really about survival in case Amber loses the Tie Breaker Challenge
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Round 6
Mar 27, 2012 23:55:00 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 27, 2012 23:55:00 GMT -5
Thank God this round is over. I was just ready to be done. I was hoping like 60% that Amber would win and 40% for Sandra. Cause I really like both but I know Sandra is tricky and Amber would have been really loyal to me. So now Im at a low point in the game and Im gonna pick up the pieces, play with my balls a little and move on.
Moving forward, I have to outlive Shawna somehow. I feel like were in the minority for the first time in the game, but thats just how Survivor is. Sometimes you start in the minority and climb your way out of oblivion to win the game, sometimes you start in a dominant alliance and ride it all the way to the end and sometimes you fall apart and then rebuild over and over again, but the latter of those 3 is what really makes the game fun. I like the pressure, thats why I enjoy watching the show. Everyone wants to see the struggle, its no fun if someone just dominates the whole game while others sit back and dont play at all (*Redemption Island*).
It's time to see what I'm really made of
.....my plan for smiting Shawna actually seemed to have gone pretty well. She did comment about it publicly and blamed Sandra and she also has been upset about it in private AIMs to me, but I still know Shawna is closer to Misty/Steph than they are to me. So even if Sandra wants to keep me they could easily go to Shawna and pull her in as their third. The two of them no longer need Sandra on their side. She has no idol. She is a threat. I cant wait to see what happens.
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Round 6
Mar 28, 2012 0:03:01 GMT -5
Post by The One and Only BOB DAWG on Mar 28, 2012 0:03:01 GMT -5
So the plan if you go to next tribal council is throw Shawna under the bus?
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Round 6
Mar 28, 2012 0:25:59 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 28, 2012 0:25:59 GMT -5
Im hoping to keep Shawna at odds with Sandra still so that she campaigns for Sandra to leave next round to Misty/Steph. I feel like Steph/Misty are going to target me but they need a 3rd vote. So I need to make sure Sandra likes me more than Shawna (and my plan for that is to emphasize that she doesnt know if Im loyal to her really, but shes KNOWS Shawna doesnt like her and wont work with her. So its like the devil you know vs the devil you dont), but I also need to make sure Misty/Steph wont approach Shawna to vote me out with them. If Shawna is still at odds with Sandra then she will target Sandra to Misty/Steph, which might make Steph/Misty think Shawna is unapproachable to ask about voting me adn then will have to go to Sandra by default and vote Shawna out.
In a perfect world i could just go to Misty and Steph myself and try to cut a deal but I just really feel like they will go back and tell Shawna because they really would just rather keep her over me. Then if Shawna knows I made a deal behind her back then she will vote me out with them and Im gone.
If we lose I think Im gone anyway, unless everything just really falls into place like im planning it will. Im just thinking if I was in everyone elses shoes and think like "if I were Person A and Person B approached me with ____scenario, how would I react?" so I think of every possible scenario with the 4 other players and then I think what move I should attempt that would make the most longevity in the game. The important thing is making a plan and then going all in with it, if you tell too many people different things then they will get together and the stories wont match up. Thats where I have the most problem because I get unsure of my move and wanna flip halfway through it. So thats why Ive physically written out my plan for the week so I still remember to stay focused with it.
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Round 6
Mar 28, 2012 0:28:07 GMT -5
Post by The One and Only BOB DAWG on Mar 28, 2012 0:28:07 GMT -5
Dude it would suck to see you go... but it would kind of be your fault for being a captain.
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Round 6
Mar 28, 2012 0:28:07 GMT -5
Post by Chase Rice on Mar 28, 2012 0:28:07 GMT -5
So the plan if you go to next tribal council is throw Shawna under the bus? I tried to answer your question above but the quickest way I can say it is, I hope Shawna throws herself under a bus by playing personally against Sandra rather than strategic.
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